“The courage to enter discussions to test one’s own viewpoint with the sole objective of honing the truth, which is the emblem of first-class discourse, seems no longer the standard. This was not always the case. There is an Indian philosophy called Nyāya, the school of logic, where a standard for quality discourse was promoted. That standard was called vāda, where those with a particular conviction are encouraged to put forth their best arguments, not to seek victory over other ideas, but to do so with detachment and aimed only at discovering the truth.”
Unfortunately, the debate I see going on today in practically all spheres—and certainly in this life-and-death matter of vaccination—is not a search for truth, but a focus on justifying one’s own strongly held beliefs, which are often based on one’s attachments.
Discussion has therefore degraded to the two lower standards of public discourse that the school of Nyāya sought to discourage: jalpa, seeking victory even by resorting to fallacies and distortions; and vitaṇḍā, or the attempt to simply destroy one’s opposition without even bothering to offer a reasonable alternative. Perhaps we have become even worse, since these days we too often refuse to engage in discourse with those who oppose us and instead justify censoring others’ views.
Whom can we trust? How can we make educated decisions? Source: Dhanurdhara Swami
I created the PowerPoint Presentation below back in June 2009. It was presented at the Los Angeles Masonic Lodge for the 2009 Kuli Mela Gurukula Reunion.
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After I finished my talk on the Winged Disc, I went up to the lounge. 1st thing I saw was the Winged Disc above the fireplace. Quite a validating moment indeed!
This same Divinity is the very same Ra-Harakhty who is also named Heru. We know the names from the many inscriptions left by the ancient Egyptians. When we see names like Heru, Horus, Harakhty, Aten, Amun, we can only be sure of the consonants and all merely guess at the pronunciation of the vowels. Therefore HR and Heru may just as well be Hari or Hara. Modern scholars merely speculate that the Egyptian Supreme God identified by the letters HR was pronounced Heru or Hor.
Thus surely the ancient, vibrant and ongoing Vedic-Hindu traditional names of Hari or Hara can be reasonably applied. Since HR and Hari are both Blue, accompanied by Eagles and Serpents and share the same exact attributes, clearly they are the same One Supreme Godhead.
Archeological Evidence has Revealed that Krishna Worship is much more Ancient than Believed
According to mainstream Academia, Krishna Worship is a fairly recent entry into the world of religion and spirituality. With a date of a mere 2300 years many theories have been bandied about that classify Krishna-centered Vaishnavism as an off-shoot of animist Sun-worship. At other times it is classified as a regional expression originating in quaint folklore and tradition. For a time it was held that Krishna worship was rooted in West Asian Christianity. It was classified as merely a localized version of the story of Jesus with a philosophy borrowed from the Bible.
In other words the theory held that like the Aryans themselves, the entire Krishna tradition was imported from the West. Krishna worship itself was categorized as yet another Aryan imposition upon native India. This ‘Aryan’ theory is taught to this very day throughout India and the world. Yet the late date and Christian origin theory of the Krishna tradition have long ago been discarded.
However even this development did not occur based upon indigenous discoveries. In fact it required evidence based upon Western sources before it was accepted by mainstream academia. The discovery of the famous Heliodorus Column indeed added new insight into the history of Krishna worship. The column, dated to a period nearly 300 years before the advent of Jesus Christ, confirmed that Krishna was worshiped many centuries earlier than previously thought. On this column, Heliodorus, a Greek Ambassador identifies himself as a ‘Devotee of Vasudeva’ (Krishna).
Only once this discovery of a Greek adherent of Vaishnavism was made did it became accepted that Krishna worship was undoubtedly a pre-Christian development. Any similarities in philosophy or legend were attributed to other sources. The fact is because both traditions are rooted in devotion to the same God-the focus of both religions, there are indeed many commonalities between the two faiths.
In fact they are verily different expressions of the same faith. And Heliodorus himself clearly recognized his God, Helios, as Hari (Krishna). This is evident by the fact that he kept his Greek name rooted in Helios despite having become an initiate of the Vaishnava faith.
Arjuna and Yudhishthira Recalling Krishna’s Activities After His Departure from Earth
Based upon the discovery of the Heliodorus Column new dates were posited for the origins and era in which Krishna worship developed. However one date and location of this development has never been recognized by mainstream academia. That date is anything prior to 1500 BC and the place is India.
According to the non-traditional outlook Vedic religion is foreign to India and Krishna is part of the alleged ‘Aryan Imposition’ upon the native Dravidian culture of India. Thus worship of Krishna within India can never be accepted as being more than 3500 years old. This coincides with the invented date of the “Aryan Invasion or Migration” into India. In other words since Vaishnavism is part of the Caucasian Aryan culture there could be no Vishnu or Krishna worship in India until after the Aryan arrival. That is the theory still taught in schools and universities throughout the world.
Another theory, quite popular even amongst many Hindu traditionalists holds that Krishna worship is based upon the Puranas. They hold that, unlike the Vedas, the Puranas are recent inventions and are merely the artificial impositions of various Kings and Scholars bent upon the socio-political control of their societies .
The various stories regarding Lord Krishna found within the Bhagavat Purana are classified as “Pious Myths” and as very late fabrications. However the work of the scholar Horacio Arganis has clearly identified many key elements found within the text that date the Bhagavat Purana (Srimad Bhagavatam) to the Pre-Christian era. Full thesis can be found HERE
Regardless of the traditional perspective mainstream scholars hold that the text was completed around 1000 AD, when it is mentioned by al Biruni and quoted by Abhinavagupta; the earliest suggestions for its composition are dated to after 500 AD. Again we find that a date is assigned and accepted only when it is in connection to a foreign observer.
Lord Krishna Attacks Bhishma with a Wheel
However solid archeological evidence has indeed been discovered which proves that the worship of Lord Krishna pre-dates both the alleged Aryan arrival into India and the very late dates given for the composition of the Bhagavat Purana. Though this evidence has long been ignored it does not change the historical reality that Krishna was known and worshiped within India for many thousands of years.
Cave paintings dated to 800 BC in Mirzapur, Uttar Pradesh, North India, show raiding horse-charioteers, one of whom is about to hurl a wheel, and who could potentially be identified as Krishna.” D. D. Kosambi (1962), Myth and Reality: Studies in the Formation of Indian Culture, New Delhi, CHAPTER I: SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC ASPECTS OF THE BHAGAVAD-GITA, paragraph 1.16
This date above of 800 BC still places Krishna worship to a time after the 1500 BC date of the alleged Aryan arrival yet it does predate the very late date (1000 AD) of the Krishna of the Bhagavat Purana.
Lord Krishna and the Death of Bhishma
Another discovery made in 1931 provides a very ancient date the precedes the alleged Aryan arrival into India and significantly represents an episode from Krishna’s Vrindavan Lila.
The scholar Jayasreesaranathan writes: “The interesting information from the Indus civilization is that Dr E.J.H Mackay who excavated Mohanjodaro between 1927 and 1931 discovered a steatite tablet depicting two persons holding a tree and a tree god extending his hands towards them. He considered this as the famous Krishna in yamalarjuna-lila. If this tablet depicts Krishna, it is a strong proof of IVC (Indian Vedic Civilization) as post Mahabharata or post- Krishna.”
“A steatite tablet unearthed from Mohenjo-daro (2600~1800 BCE) depicting a young boy uprooting two trees from which are emerging two human figures is an interesting archaeological find for fixing dates associated with Krishna. This image recalls the Yamalarjuna episode of Bhagavata and Harivamsa Purana. In this image, the young boy is undoubtedly Krishna, and the two human beings emerging from the trees are the two cursed Gandharvas, identified as Nalkuvera & Manigriva. Dr. E.J.H. Mackay, who did the excavation at Mohanjodaro, compares this image with the Yamalarjuna episode. Prof. V.S. Agrawal has also accepted this identification.
Excerpt from Age of Bhārata War by G.C. AGARWALA and K.L VERMA page.81, Vidur Sewa Ashram (Bijnor, India) this is a drawing based upon the ancient Indian cave art depicting a chariot riding warrior wielding a wheel identified as Krishna.
Thus, it seems that the Indus valley people knew stories related to Krishna. This lone find may not establish Krishna as contemporary with Pre-Indus or Indus times, but, likewise, it cannot be ignored.” Mackay’s report part 1,pp.344–45,Part 2,plate no.90,object no.D.K.10237
Thus we find that not only is Krishna worship indigenous to India it is much more ancient than believed. The many theories that ignore the traditional perspective are based upon a denial of the authenticity of the Vedic texts and traditions. The fact is these indigenous sources are not merely based upon belief but are based upon scientific evidence combined with the traditions of India.
This knowledge is validated by an unbroken Disciplic Succession of Teachers and Students that has preserved the history of India through a system based primarily upon the oral tradition.
These evidences and proofs also shatter the many myths classifying Krishna worship as a late borrowing from other traditions. They reveal that the worship of Krishna as a young boy in Vrindavan, as described within the Bhagavat Purana, is very ancient and authentically Vedic in nature. In fact as evidenced in the book “The Serpent, The Eagle, The Lion and The Disk” the worship of Lord Krishna along with Srimati Radharani and Lord Balarama is at the very heart of not only ancient Indian civilization but it is the primal root religion of all humanity.
Ancient Rock Painting from Mirzpur, India Depicts Warriors in Battle (Kurukshetra?)
Vedic Culture in China predates the arrival of the Vedic Champa Kingdom’s gift of Rice to China. The same primordial Vedic imprints are there in both ancient China and Vietnam. Yet this Vietnamese rice didn’t reach China until 1000 years ago. This suggests that Vedic Culture was once Indigenous to both civilizations. ‘Champa Rice’ was originally introduced into Champa from Vietnam. It was later sent to China as a tribute gift from the Vedic Champa state during the reign of Emperor Zhenzong of Song (r997–1022). Champa rice is a quick-maturing, drought resistant rice that can allow two harvests, of sixty days each in only one growing season.
So what is the significance? Champa State was an ancient Vietnamese Hindu (Vedic) Kingdom whose capital was Indrapura (near the modern city of Da Nang) its last capital was called Panduranga (Modern Phan Rang). This Hindu Kingdom sent Champa Rice as a Tribute to the Chinese Emperor in the very late time period of 997-1022 AD.
The impact of this Champa Rice was substantial and completely Changed China’s agriculture and led to a population boom. In fact it was during the Song Dynasty Era that the Chinese Population increased to 100 Million after the introduction of Champa Rice to the Region. Despite the ongoing trade interaction between China and India it was not until only 1000 years ago that this Champa Rice reached China. Yet we find repeated and substantial examples of Vedic Culture at the core of Chinese society and culture that date back to the earliest phases of China’s recorded history.
As noted by the Ganshu China, Swastika funeral urn dated 2200-1800 BC. Seen Here.
CHARACTER TIAN FOR “FIELD”, A CROSS WITHIN A SQUARE, INSIDE A SWASTIKA, REPEATED 4 TIMES
MS in Chinese on red earthenware, Ganshu, China, ca.2200-1800 BC, 1 funeral urn, h. 32 cm, diam. 26 to10 cm, wide, near spherical corpus with vertical ringlugs at the middle, tapering to a base which is a little wider than the mouth, decorations in dark brown and light violet. Provenance: Cemetery, Ganshu, China (2200-1800 -); 2. Private collection, Ascona, Switzerland (1965-)
Commentary: From the Yangshao Neolitic period, representing the oldest Chinese pictograms/marks/characters next to the Banpo neolithic village pottery ca. 4000 BC, and about 700 years before the oracle bones (MSS 2103/1-7), which is the earliest Chinese continuos writing so far. SOURCE
While the Vedic cultural artifacts date back to the beginning of recorded history common items like rice took until 1000 years ago to make it from Vietnam to China. This is highly indicative of the indigenous presence of authentically Chinese Vedic culture that was not reliant on outside influences but upon the primal links to reality and to God at the center of all History.
Specifically the SE Asian regions of Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia and Phillipines, the evidence reveals that the natives considered themselves to be just as much a part of Vedic civilization as the people of India.
Thus we see the greatest river in south east asia is called Me Kong or Ma Ganga. This is the primal name of the river, and it is still at the epicenter of SE asian civilization. It is not a new name given after they ‘converted’ to Hinduism.
None of these people, Including Indians called themselves Hindus. It is a foreign applied term based upon the Greek and Persian linguistic variations of the Sanskrit named River Sindhu. Today the term Hindu is the academic and legal definition applied to practitioners of religions rooted in the Vedic literature, rituals and sacred traditions.
This Vedic religion was surely once global for it is undoubtedly universal. Verily, True High Civilization is a direct gift from God. It is not the sole inheritance of any one group or society. It is eternal, undying and is directly correlated to societies connectivity to the source of all life.
As time passed, there was loss and cultural dilution. This combined with the outright hostility of later socio-political forces led to the virtual extinction of the many Vedic civilizations of the region.
Veni, Vidi, Vici! ‘I Came, I Saw, I Conquered!’ Julius Caesar 47 BC
A brief look at these three Latin words reveals an obvious yet obscured phenomenon. Though Latin, this famous phrase of Julius Caesar’s is in fact almost Pure Sanskrit…
VIDI translated as ‘I Saw’. This is the Sanskrit word(s) VEDA/ VIDHI / VIDHYA. Meaning Knowledge, Truth, Understanding. And yes Vidi Veda are indeed related to the word Video.
Veni = Vani = Want
Vidi = Vedi = Verify
Vici = Vijai = Victory
VICI translated as ‘I Conquered’ is clearly the Sanskrit word VIJAYA / VIJAI meaning Victorious, Conquer, Triumphant.
VENI translated as “I Came’ finds a direct correlation with the Sanskrit word VANI meaning Want, Desire, Wish, Obtainment, all words that indicate a pursuit of a goal reaching something or somewhere.
Veni Vedi – Caesar Arrives and Comprehends Vici – Caesar Accepts Vercingetorix Surrender
As to why such primal Latin words are basically Sanskrit the answer is simple yet deep, for it is a vast subject.
The VERDict of the eVIDence is that VEDIC Sanskrit is VERIly found at the foundation of eVERY language spoken by humanity.
(Note: According to the rules of linguitics, the letters R &D are interchangeble I”ve therefore used Capitalized letters to emphasize the many English words like verdict, verily, verify that are derived from the Sanskrit word Veda.)
Test the VERAcity of this by ViSually noting this VERDICt whenever such words are used. They always refer to the truth and facts of a topic or situation.
And as we see, it is not English alone that has Sanskrit at its core. For Sanskrit is the oriiginal Mother Language, the hypothesized Nostratic proto-language spoken at the very dawn of human history.
To clarify, the translation of Tengri into the words Sky and Heaven is innacurate. Tengri actually means God but academics and religious exclusive types intentionally translate Tengri into an animistic impersonal concept such as sky or heaven. It’s also part of the cover up that attempts to disconnect world traditions from their Vedic roots. The ambivalent Blue sky and a very personal Blue embodied divinity have no real commonalities beyond the color.
Fortunately, when applying the linguistic historical traditional and cultural contexts it is beyond doubt that Koke Mongke Tengri means Blue Eternal God. See quote from my book below clarifying this point
Yet scholars continue to falsely identify Tengrism as animistic sky-awed nature worship rather than the intensely personal and devotional faith tradition it truly is. In fact Tanri, (Tengri) is often used by Turkik Muslims as a name for Allah just as the name Allah is still used in prayer by Maltese Christians even today.
Vietnam’s Vedic Champa Civilization – Builders of cities named Indrapura, Simhapura, Amaravati, Vijaya and Panduranga. These people and their culture continue to flourish to this day. Thus when we speak of the Champa people, it is not a mere trek through history; rather we are speaking of a living culture with roots going back thousands of years.
Garuda adorns the Official Flag of the Mongolian Capital City Ulan Bator
Mongolian Garid, also known as Khangarid or Khan Garuda, is the Vedic Garuda, the Divine Eagle of Vishnu. Mongolian traditions associate Garuda with prowess, vitality, good fortune, victory and the triumph of goodness.
Genghis Khan’s pet Eagle/Falcon, Garid, often rode up on his arm. For him it “…was better and surer than any arrow, because it could fly up into the skies and see everything that a human being could not.”
Garuda adorns the Official Emblem of the Mongolian Capital City Ulan Bator
Mongolian Soccer Team Garuda Logo
Khangarid is a Mongolian professional football club from Erdenet, competing in the Mongolian National Premier League.
The state emblem of Mongolia was adopted on March 25, 1992,after the fall of the Communist government. It features a Blue Disk (Neela Chakra) encircled by interconnected Swastikas. Known as Tumen Nasan, the Swastikas represent Eternity or Ananta ‘the Un-ending’. This is Ananta Shesha who supports and encircles Vishnu and it is the very same Sacred Cobra encircling the Disc of the ancient Egyptians. The State emblem also includes 3 Chintamani (Wish-fulfilling) Stones and a Buddha Dharma Wheel resting upon a Lotus Flower.
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